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www.nasa.gov/twan

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talking all about their new television

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series on the Travel Channel expedition

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Bigfoot we didn't expect to find what we

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found you know and and I mean you know

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you sort of you sort of want that as you

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set out on it on an expedition like this

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but but man did we get lucky

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the experience was magical but it was

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something that we had hoped we were

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gonna get some evidence something that

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we're gonna come out of here and feel

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like this wasn't a failure you know this

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was we've made some kind of significant

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contribution to the search and I am

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proud and happy to say that we did have

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some things that we just did not expect

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that were just freaking awesome and I

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can't wait to share it with the world

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this is somewhere in the skies the bride

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I am here with Ronnie LeBlanc and Brice

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Johnson two of the members of the

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expedition team sent out to bring

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Bigfoot more into the world of reality

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with some new methods technology but

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most importantly evidence they are doing

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so on a new television series expedition

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Bigfoot premiering Sunday December 8th

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on the Travel Channel guys thank you so

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much for joining me today on somewhere

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in the skies Thank You Ryan

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our pleasure I could not wait to do this

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when I saw that you guys were working

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together we were talking a little about

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this off air I know you both from two

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separate worlds and to see those worlds

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colliding it's just so exciting and to

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see it under a project like this like I

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really feel they chose the right people

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for this and this was meant to happen

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first off before we get to the real

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reason that you guys are here I would

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love to hear sort of both of your origin

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stories Bryce I know I've done this a

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little with you in the past in past

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interviews but how you got involved are

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interested in specifically Bigfoot so

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Bryce why don't we start with human yeah

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so I've been I've been sort of obsessed

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with I guess I guess you could file

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Bigfoot under the the world of the

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paranormal I consider anything sort of

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that's unsolved or mysterious the the

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world of the paranormal so I've been

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obsessed with Bigfoot ever since I was a

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kid and then when I saw that in search

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of episode with Leonard Nimoy I think it

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was a rerun because I'm not I'm not that

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or old when it originally aired or I

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might be but it was that one when I saw

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that redo the the patterson-gimlin

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footage that just I just felt in my in

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my gut in my heart of hearts that that

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that was definitely not a person in a

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suit and that I was looking at this

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creature that wasn't supposed to exist

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walking across the sandbar and that

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really sort of you know crystallized my

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my passion for for the world of Bigfoot

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and and I've just been obsessed with it

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ever ever since then and I was lucky

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enough to star in a in a found footage

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Bigfoot movie directed and written by

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Bobcat Goldthwait and then

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and then you know two years ago I

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started a podcast with one of my great

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friends Michael Macmillan called the Big

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Foot collectors Club where we discuss

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stories of high strangeness with

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celebrity guests and and so yeah it's

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just this has been a topic I've been you

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know having a great time exploring and I

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feel like the ball is actually moving

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forward in the in the world of Big Foot

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I know that's crazy to say I feel I

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think it's it's such well-trodden ground

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but but you know with this new show

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expedition Big Foot one of the things

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I'm so pleased with is I truly feel that

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we are actually moving the ball forward

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yeah and I know there's some really

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interesting methods and approaches you

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guys took with the show and I can't wait

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to talk about those some but before we

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do that Ronny what what do you got for

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us man what's your origin story yeah

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similar I was young I was really into

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animals and knew all the animals in

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North America and I had walked by a book

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in the library called mysterious America

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by Loren Coleman and it piqued my

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interest because I saw you know things

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about Bigfoot and Sasquatch and these

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creatures that weren't supposed to exist

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or haven't been discovered yet and so

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that got me kind of down the road to

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start reading and devouring all types of

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books this is before YouTube you know so

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after that where I had an experience in

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woods near my house and let mr. State

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Forest in a section of woods on my way

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to an area called monster land and I

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encountered something that was for

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better lack of the term invisible that

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was in front of me that stomped through

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the woods and and pushed everything out

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of its way like a moose the size of it

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loose but there's nothing there to see

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and I took off you know pedaling I was

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by myself I was on my bike goes on these

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trails and I never made it to meet up

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with friends I pedaled back home trying

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to figure out what what this was and you

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know years later more stories would be

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kind of uncovered in this area and have

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really kind of got me into digging more

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into it and yeah I just got kind of bit

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by the bug that I never considered that

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a Bigfoot you know I never considered

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when I experienced I considered it to be

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something known that I just maybe for

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whatever reason I couldn't see it I

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couldn't understand it but it didn't

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equate it to a Bigfoot until years later

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after hearing similar stories like this

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across the country interesting I

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completely understand that way of

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thinking Ronnie I had a UFO sighting as

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a kid that I know attributes you

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definitely something military or you

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know experimental but that didn't change

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the fact that it completely changed the

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path of my life I mean it's a search for

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answers to something even though that's

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something I'm searching for it might not

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have been what I had seen so I totally

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did what you're saying with that man

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and I know eventually you wrote a book

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called monster land one of the best

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titles ever by the way um thanks bro

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yeah could you tell us a little about

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what compelled you to write the book and

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the time with craft beer this is really

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interesting yeah give us that story if

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you don't mind

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sure kind of the idea what monster land

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was you know it was an area that I used

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to hang out people used to go high

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school kids go in party keg parties

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bonfires

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people were seeing UFOs strange balls of

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light shadow figures Bigfoot's head

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creatures and all this stuff that you

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would find in other hotspots around the

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country so you know unbeknownst to me I

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didn't really understand how the place

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got its name but I found that was

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because people were seeing bigfoot-type

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creatures back in the 1880s they dubbed

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it in the 50s after some guy had seen

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one by the side of the road and

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reportedly disappeared but prior to that

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the old-timers said you know do you know

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what we used to call this area before

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that they said no they said this used to

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be called the UFO landing area and Betty

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Andreasen had her first experience here

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in 1944 she was seven years old she's a

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famous UFO abductee there's a lot of

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strangeness here that I started looking

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into the history not only with UFOs but

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Bigfoot in these strange orange orbs and

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the connection between all three that

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there is some kind of connection there

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either coming from the same place or

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there's something to do with the geology

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of the area so I kind of explore that

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along with the Native American myths and

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lore that kind of tie in what Bigfoot

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could be and you know some of those

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theories are that they are in a

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dimensional in nature that they are you

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know some kind of alien some kind of you

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know cryptid so there's a there's a

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gamut of theories out there what these

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things could be right yeah and I

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definitely want to touch on that later

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with you guys your personal thoughts on

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not only what you went out to discover

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but what you actually think these things

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these phenomena represent all but um

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yeah tell us a little about this tie-in

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with craft beer sure I'm a huge craft

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beer nerd awesome so I mean I am I went

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to film school film and television

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school out in California and I've always

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had a kind of interest in marketing and

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advertising so I looked at you know when

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I had the book out okay how am I gonna

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market this I'm gonna get some awareness

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around the subject and get people

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outside of this paranormal circle sort

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of speak and so one of those kind of

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tie-ins is that when you're having a

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couple beers with friends you start

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sharing stories you start talking about

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different things and I had a connection

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with what you said Brewing Company which

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is like huge one of the top 50 brewing

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companies in the country

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my wife was running their brew yard

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there I had become friends with the

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ownership and the president and just

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kind of pitched my idea that man I would

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love to see you know a pint glass with

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the monster land eyes like my book cover

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and have a you know I could a stout or

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IPA type beer when you fill it up it

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looks like the book cover and tie and

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that whole thing and they made it a

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reality they made it hard cider using

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apples from left minister my hometown

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where Moss land resides which is the

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birthplace of Johnny Appleseed so

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there's a lot of cool like ties in

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tie-ins and we did a neat marketing

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collaboration and then I just did

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something recently with another upcoming

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brewery called bullspit Brewing Company

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which is a farm that they're they have

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launched this Brewing Company and I came

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up the idea of creating Sasquatch spit

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which is like a black

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i PA and me and Maddie Blake from curse

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of Oak Island History Channel did a

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little commercial thing that I came up

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with and we went shot it for a day and

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just did some fun stuff on social media

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and tied in our podcast which is of the

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same name on slant and similar to Bryce

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we're talking about different stories

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that are you know Bigfoot UFOs so we

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have different authors and researchers

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on as well as people that have had had

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experiences in Monster land in around

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New England that would come on and share

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their experiences see that's awesome I

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love when you can tie in these topics to

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like other passions in life you know for

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me there's a bunch of beers that I like

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to get you know UFO related so I know

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that feeling well that's great Bryce I

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want to ask you you know having shot the

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film with bobcat you got to go to the

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actual location where the video was shot

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theme not infamous the famous video so

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what was that experience like going to

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the actual place I mean for me it was

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like stepping ground on the Roswell

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crash site so how is that experience

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before we get to Expedition Bigfoot yeah

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absolutely it really is like the same

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sort of feeling I know that you got when

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you did your roswell special I mean

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you're kind of stepping on sacred ground

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Willow Creek is that that small town in

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Northern California is is the gateway to

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what they call Bigfoot country and its

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really there that that this whole lore

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sort of began and took off at lightning

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speed so yeah we were we filmed that

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right at the epicenter of uh of where

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Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin shot that

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that famous footage so you felt like you

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know that you were in in the exact area

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I know filming on one of the locations I

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got this this strange feeling and it was

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a small crew I mean there's really only

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like you know five of us and Bobcat

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Alexei and I had a death under this one

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location we're in the film were sort of

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we get out of our out of our truck and

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start trekking into into what would be

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the the Bluff Creek zone and and we're

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down there in the you know right near

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the exit path to actually do that to get

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to Bluff Creek and I'm

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just sort of the woods got really silent

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and and I don't get scared to eat easily

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but I just I had the feeling of being

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observed and and it was just it was an

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incredibly sort of eerie feeling and I I

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remember I remember telling Bobcat I was

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like I let's hurry this up I want to get

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out of here so I felt so kind of scared

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for lack of a better word I just

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remember you know so being there at at

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Willow Creek and shooting that movie it

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was it all added to that to the

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intensity of the film especially leading

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up to that tent scene I mean you know so

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that was really that fear was really

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easy to tap it into cuz because you're

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right there where you know these

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creatures are known to exist right and

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in the fact that you're filming a fun

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footage movie at quote-unquote and then

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maybe Bigfoot isn't gonna be too happy

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about that and actually show up you

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never know absolutely in a lot we wanted

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that that feel of authenticity I mean

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you know when we're talking to Steven

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strifer he's the owner of Bigfoot books

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he's right there in Willow Creek he runs

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that small bookstore and he's the you

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know the local hermit the local uh you

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know expert on all things Bigfoot and so

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that interview is as real as it gets I

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gotta ask guys both personally could you

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maybe run us through how the opportunity

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came about for both of you with this

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project brace let's start with you yeah

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sure so I got a call from a good buddy

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of mine his name is Tim Healy and he

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runs

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Railsplitter pictures and they're the

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production company that produced this

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and you know he was a he was a producer

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on a show I did for MTV called death

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valley so we had worked together we had

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known each other and he called me and he

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you know he knew I did that film Willow

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Creek and he knew I had the Bigfoot

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podcast and basically he just said you

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know a company has approached just

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looking to get into the Bigfoot space I

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want to know if I can you know throw

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your name into the ring and I basically

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was just like absolutely that would be

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that would be amazing and as time went

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on as the the idea got developed a

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little further you know we got a green

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light from the company that would be

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Travel Channel and so you know basically

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they greenlit eight one-hour episodes

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and we were off and running and then it

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was time to establish who else was gonna

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be on the team and we wanted we really

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wanted the the best of the best and we

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wanted you know to bring

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boots-on-the-ground

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experts as well as scientists and and so

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that's how we started going about

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putting together this this crack team I

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love it Ronnie how about you man how did

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you get involved yeah you know was the

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expedition was starting to heat up

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they had need of bringing some more

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boots on the ground like Bryce said so I

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got a phone call randomly it was uh I

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think a Wednesday explaining the

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situation what was going on which I was

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blown away that this was even happening

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and that you know I got this call hey

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would you be interested in in doing this

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we can kind of use your kind of

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expertise from your kind of school of

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thought like where you come from and

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explain you know the algorithm all this

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and and within 48 hours I was on the

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plane heading there kind of going what

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what am I you know where am I going

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right now this is unbelievable like

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pinching myself the whole way and the

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experience was just and I would just say

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it was it was magical in the sense of

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what we were able to uncover but then

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the team that was assembled and how we

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were able to just work together and

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click and we're super tight today from

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this experience was just amazing yeah

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embrace I know you and I have experience

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with these things to they happen out of

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nowhere and you have very little time to

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really discuss think and just kind of

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act on impulse I mean when you're given

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the opportunity to go look for Bigfoot

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you're gonna look for Bigfoot it was the

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same for me with Roswell I don't care if

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no nothing new came in the last 40 years

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I wanted to go out there and investigate

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so I know that passion and hunger to

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when these opportunities come take that

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please please take them and clearly the

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formula for Ronnie at brace and me guys

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if you want to be on a television show

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start a podcast right I mean seriously

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it's so true this you know like you said

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Ryan these opportunities are far and few

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between and when they do come I mean

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guys like us you just you really just

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jump at the opportunity but I've noticed

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a strange thing too I mean we often talk

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about and I'm sure you guys would agree

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you know when you sort of look into the

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phenomenon as I like to call it it's

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sort of like looks back at you and you

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start to experience yes these strange

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synchronicities and sometimes therefore

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the bad and sometimes therefore the good

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but it's it's had a strange way of

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manifesting these passions in our life I

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was talking to Michael McMillan my

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co-host on Bigfoot collectors Club and I

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was just like it's so strange to think

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how I how I've gotten here and that I'm

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about to be premiering on on a Bigfoot

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expedition show on the Travel Channel I

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mean like I couldn't have I couldn't

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have an imagined a more exciting

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adventurous thing to partake in and and

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it seemed all just sort of manifest from

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from my passion for this subject and and

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it's it's weird how these these

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synchronise synchronicities come

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together oh absolutely and I mean I'm

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sure the passion shows in the expedition

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that you guys do and you have two other

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crew members out there with you so I'd

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love if we could hear about the other

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two people that are involved with this

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would you guys mind tackling that for us

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yeah I'll talk about Moran then Ronnie

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can introduce Russell and yeah so we

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really wanted to have a scientist on

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board and not just any scientists but

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you know someone who had an expertise in

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primates because at the end of the day

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that's what we might just be looking for

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is a is an undiscovered species of

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primates so when we got a hold of dr.

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Maria Mayer it was a I mean it was it

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was a no-brainer she's a Fulbright

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Scholar

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she they call her the female Indiana

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Jones if that gives you any idea so

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she's not she's not afraid to get to get

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into the woods where no one else would

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go not only that her expertise in

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primatology and anthropology is bar none

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at the top of the game I mean she's even

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discovered the world's smallest primate

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which just happens to be nocturnal and

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so if anybody knows this world of of

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hearing these sort of stories from the

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indigenous tribes of these mysterious

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possibly mythological creatures and then

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going out into the woods and actually

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discovering them it would be her and so

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she was she was a an absolute boon to to

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our team Ronnie yeah could you tell us

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about the other team member yeah Russ

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ACORD is I guess if you had to describe

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this guy in one word I would say Rambo

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and I I mean he is

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who's ex-military 16 year veteran and he

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is a survivalist he just he's a hunter

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he's been hunting his whole life he's

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been born raised in the you know the

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mountains of Montana this guy was just

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amazing to work with

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not only with his expertise and stuff

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that he's kind of dealt with throughout

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the years but what he's here for you

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know he he was joining the scene wants

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to have a face-to-face encounter we all

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want to have that that definitive

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sighting that experienced that encounter

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where you go yes I saw one and I think

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we all want to be that person that's

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either a part of a team or that

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individually is able to say hey look I

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found conclusive evidence that Sasquatch

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Bigfoot exists and that's something that

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all of us really have that capability

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now with HD cameras in our hands you

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know they're all over the country that

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they're not just focused in the Pacific

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Northwest however with someone like Russ

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where you can kind of he understands the

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terrain he understands how animal life

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is gonna kind of work game trails all

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that and so you bring all this different

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expertise together was just incredible

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where we can kind of collaborate

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you know we're all learning from one

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another but I think collectively having

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that is just was unbelievable

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Oh totally I mean when you when you can

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learn from the other members of your

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team I mean that that's all you can

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really ask for for me it was working

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with a hard-line skeptic and that was

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extremely refreshing for me when you

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know I live in a world to believers day

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to day it's good to be challenged and I

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think that's what's most important about

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these things is to to stay grounded to

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have someone who knows how primates work

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where they would be how they would hide

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where they would track and how to

540
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essentially find them is extremely

541
00:22:45,750 --> 00:22:43,480
essential when doing something like this

542
00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:45,760
but not only that you guys from what I'm

543
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:48,130
gathering from the first episode you're

544
00:22:52,350 --> 00:22:50,250
entering a whole new world of

545
00:22:55,290 --> 00:22:52,360
investigating Bigfoot in terms of

546
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:55,300
modern-day science and technology so I

547
00:23:00,510 --> 00:22:57,610
was wondering maybe could you give us

548
00:23:02,580 --> 00:23:00,520
some ideas Bryce first maybe of what

549
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:02,590
you'll be doing in the show in terms of

550
00:23:07,170 --> 00:23:04,930
using new tech and new approaches to

551
00:23:08,780 --> 00:23:07,180
looking for Bigfoot yeah absolutely I

552
00:23:11,460 --> 00:23:08,790
mean the thing that sets us apart from

553
00:23:14,220 --> 00:23:11,470
literally any other Bigfoot expedition

554
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:14,230
that's been done in the past is is is a

555
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:16,480
data algorithm that we use to sort of

556
00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:18,930
pinpoint the place where we were gonna

557
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:22,720
bed down for three weeks and and you

558
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:25,690
know look for evidence of Bigfoot and

559
00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:28,450
and what that means is usually what's

560
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:30,640
been done in the past is somebody will

561
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:33,970
have a Bigfoot sighting or they'll find

562
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:37,210
a trackway and researchers will head out

563
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:38,410
to that location

564
00:23:42,810 --> 00:23:40,930
and sort of look at the evidence after

565
00:23:44,970 --> 00:23:42,820
the fact you know they'll examine the

566
00:23:47,820 --> 00:23:44,980
trackways they'll talk to witnesses and

567
00:23:50,430 --> 00:23:47,830
they really will only spend a couple

568
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:50,440
days there but you know that Bigfoot has

569
00:23:55,710 --> 00:23:53,650
already left the area and you know what

570
00:23:57,570 --> 00:23:55,720
we really wanted to do was say okay

571
00:23:59,760 --> 00:23:57,580
let's let's look at this from a whole

572
00:24:01,830 --> 00:23:59,770
new light let's do something nobody's

573
00:24:04,770 --> 00:24:01,840
ever done before and let's try and get

574
00:24:07,620 --> 00:24:04,780
to the place and the time that Bigfoot

575
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:07,630
would be before Bigfoot gets there so we

576
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really you know our idea was let's not

577
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go to a place after the fact

578
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but let's get to this hot zone before

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here stay woke meet sex and so what we

601
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did was not to give too much away about

602
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how we use this algorithm I mean we'll

603
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explain didn't show but what we just

604
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tried to do was eliminate these certain

605
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parameters and and we actually hired a

606
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data analyst to to create this software

607
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thing that would give us the time and

608
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place to set up our expedition and and

609
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it the place that just kind of jumped

610
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out off the screen was with Central

611
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Oregon this sort of this certain plot in

612
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Central Oregon that just sort of

613
00:26:02,129 --> 00:26:00,369
screamed this is the time to look for

614
00:26:04,379 --> 00:26:02,139
Bigfoot and this is the place to look

615
00:26:06,959 --> 00:26:04,389
for Bigfoot so it gave us a window of

616
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opportunity and once we sort of

617
00:26:11,969 --> 00:26:09,399
discovered that it started to get very

618
00:26:15,149 --> 00:26:11,979
real and and exciting you know it felt

619
00:26:16,679 --> 00:26:15,159
like this could actually work and I mean

620
00:26:19,109 --> 00:26:16,689
a lot of us think of the Pacific

621
00:26:21,089 --> 00:26:19,119
Northwest when we think of Sasquatch or

622
00:26:22,649 --> 00:26:21,099
Bigfoot and so for a lot of people

623
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:22,659
that's probably like a given but the

624
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:25,690
fact that people don't realize how big

625
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:28,690
these forested areas are so the fact

626
00:26:34,050 --> 00:26:30,490
that you were able to triangulate a

627
00:26:37,020 --> 00:26:34,060
certain specific area is astounding to

628
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:37,030
me and I can't say that I've ever heard

629
00:26:41,670 --> 00:26:39,610
of an expedition like this where you're

630
00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:41,680
trying to get there before it happens

631
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:43,780
it's the same in the UFO world

632
00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:45,760
once the UFO is reported it's gone in

633
00:26:49,740 --> 00:26:47,950
the blink of an eye so what is there to

634
00:26:51,780 --> 00:26:49,750
really investigate you know we're lucky

635
00:26:53,790 --> 00:26:51,790
to get any sort of trace evidence

636
00:26:56,490 --> 00:26:53,800
we're often just left with witness

637
00:26:59,370 --> 00:26:56,500
testimony but we have something similar

638
00:27:02,400 --> 00:26:59,380
in the UFO world of a woman named Cheryl

639
00:27:04,380 --> 00:27:02,410
Costa who has done data and statistics

640
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:04,390
for every UFO sighting in the United

641
00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:06,970
States down to the counting of how many

642
00:27:11,490 --> 00:27:09,220
of these things have happened so if we

643
00:27:14,340 --> 00:27:11,500
can take an example of what you guys are

644
00:27:16,020 --> 00:27:14,350
doing and crunch those numbers and try

645
00:27:18,330 --> 00:27:16,030
to get to a hotbed before something

646
00:27:20,190 --> 00:27:18,340
happens I can only imagine how much more

647
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:20,200
evidence we could find so that's

648
00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:22,810
extremely exciting for me to hear what

649
00:27:26,850 --> 00:27:25,120
you guys are doing it was the amount of

650
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:26,860
time that we were gonna spend there was

651
00:27:32,970 --> 00:27:30,310
was a huge factor as well often times if

652
00:27:34,830 --> 00:27:32,980
you're familiar with sort of a Bigfoot

653
00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:34,840
lore and mythology you know these people

654
00:27:38,820 --> 00:27:36,880
that have that report these Bigfoot

655
00:27:41,790 --> 00:27:38,830
creatures sort of coming up to their

656
00:27:43,260 --> 00:27:41,800
backyard and eating the apples it's

657
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:43,270
something known as what's called a

658
00:27:47,850 --> 00:27:45,610
habituation in other words these

659
00:27:50,250 --> 00:27:47,860
Bigfoot's become so familiar and so

660
00:27:53,010 --> 00:27:50,260
comfortable with a certain resident or a

661
00:27:54,990 --> 00:27:53,020
certain cabin out in the woods that they

662
00:27:57,390 --> 00:27:55,000
feel more comfortable sort of letting

663
00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:57,400
their presence known so being out there

664
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for you know in these woods for three

665
00:28:04,530 --> 00:28:02,140
weeks at a time and not going anywhere

666
00:28:07,020 --> 00:28:04,540
but concentrating on that specific area

667
00:28:09,660 --> 00:28:07,030
the idea was that it was a sort of like

668
00:28:11,790 --> 00:28:09,670
a mini habituation look we knew that

669
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:11,800
once we were in the area if there were

670
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:14,530
Bigfoot creatures in that area that they

671
00:28:19,170 --> 00:28:16,240
would know were there they would be

672
00:28:20,970 --> 00:28:19,180
aware of our presence and hopefully they

673
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:20,980
would become very interested in what we

674
00:28:26,220 --> 00:28:24,370
were doing and and by doing so sort of

675
00:28:30,060 --> 00:28:26,230
allow their selves or allow themselves

676
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:30,070
to uh to make their presence known which

677
00:28:34,290 --> 00:28:32,710
they almost not to give anything away

678
00:28:36,090 --> 00:28:34,300
but which they certainly did

679
00:28:38,930 --> 00:28:36,100
Ronnie is there anything else you can

680
00:28:41,479 --> 00:28:38,940
think of during this expedition

681
00:28:44,779 --> 00:28:41,489
really sets this apart from other

682
00:28:47,330 --> 00:28:44,789
Bigfoot investigations I think you know

683
00:28:50,930 --> 00:28:47,340
this straight up having someone like dr.

684
00:28:54,109 --> 00:28:50,940
Maria who's willing to step out of

685
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:54,119
academia step out of science in a sort

686
00:29:00,229 --> 00:28:56,970
of way to get into this subject and

687
00:29:02,899 --> 00:29:00,239
bring her expertise bring her her mind

688
00:29:04,669 --> 00:29:02,909
that that rational mind that's looking

689
00:29:07,820 --> 00:29:04,679
for the facts that's looking for certain

690
00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:07,830
things and to see that in action was

691
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:10,799
amazing and then also have all of us

692
00:29:17,019 --> 00:29:13,200
experience some of the strangeness that

693
00:29:18,979 --> 00:29:17,029
comes with with Sasquatch firsthand and

694
00:29:20,330 --> 00:29:18,989
viewers are going to experience some of

695
00:29:22,669 --> 00:29:20,340
this stuff and it's gonna scratch

696
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:22,679
people's heads and I think the the the

697
00:29:27,649 --> 00:29:24,570
amazing physical things too we're able

698
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:27,659
to bring to the table are gonna I think

699
00:29:32,330 --> 00:29:30,450
create some serious conversation on the

700
00:29:35,509 --> 00:29:32,340
global scale about the subject matter

701
00:29:37,549 --> 00:29:35,519
well I mean a big part of this guys when

702
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:37,559
dealing with the the paranormal the

703
00:29:43,820 --> 00:29:41,849
unknown the capital P phenomena as it

704
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:43,830
were is the skeptics

705
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:46,080
they're very central to the work we do

706
00:29:50,599 --> 00:29:48,720
so I got to ask you both out for the

707
00:29:54,049 --> 00:29:50,609
skeptics out there who don't really buy

708
00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:54,059
into Bigfoot stories or any of the

709
00:29:58,489 --> 00:29:55,679
evidence even brought forward in the

710
00:30:01,489 --> 00:29:58,499
past do you think your expedition will

711
00:30:03,049 --> 00:30:01,499
change or or maybe at least even open

712
00:30:05,930 --> 00:30:03,059
the minds of the skeptics out there

713
00:30:07,940 --> 00:30:05,940
Bryce what do you think well you know as

714
00:30:12,849 --> 00:30:07,950
well as I do skeptics are just as

715
00:30:16,549 --> 00:30:12,859
passionate as we are but look you know I

716
00:30:19,129 --> 00:30:16,559
will say this you know dr. Mayer

717
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:19,139
considered herself sort of an agnostic

718
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:21,330
skeptic and and what I think she meant

719
00:30:26,629 --> 00:30:24,570
by that was look I'm I'm skeptical of an

720
00:30:28,969 --> 00:30:26,639
undiscovered you know nine foot tall

721
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:28,979
twelve hundred pound primate living at

722
00:30:33,289 --> 00:30:31,049
North America but I'm more than willing

723
00:30:35,450 --> 00:30:33,299
to look at any evidence that you guys

724
00:30:38,989 --> 00:30:35,460
can bring forward or that I can garner

725
00:30:40,969 --> 00:30:38,999
on this expedition and I'll say this at

726
00:30:43,729 --> 00:30:40,979
the end of the expedition she was like

727
00:30:46,879 --> 00:30:43,739
Bryce I don't know what I think anymore

728
00:30:51,019 --> 00:30:46,889
you know so is she she had definitely

729
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:51,029
made a complete 188 you know and so did

730
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:51,809
some of her

731
00:30:56,539 --> 00:30:54,090
well credentialed colleagues hey that's

732
00:30:59,180 --> 00:30:56,549
all you can ask for yeah I mean that was

733
00:31:00,619 --> 00:30:59,190
huge what do you think Ronnie what do

734
00:31:02,570 --> 00:31:00,629
you think the skeptics will take away

735
00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:02,580
from this project you know I think that

736
00:31:07,009 --> 00:31:04,609
they're gonna take a second look I think

737
00:31:08,239 --> 00:31:07,019
people always talk about you know I have

738
00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:08,249
to see it to believe it

739
00:31:10,999 --> 00:31:09,809
and they're gonna be able to see

740
00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:11,009
something that's going to help them to

741
00:31:16,190 --> 00:31:13,919
believe it because what this expedition

742
00:31:18,409 --> 00:31:16,200
was able to uncover but I think it's

743
00:31:21,379 --> 00:31:18,419
just gonna I think you know just what

744
00:31:24,169 --> 00:31:21,389
you're seeing right with UFOs we're Navy

745
00:31:26,479 --> 00:31:24,179
confirms UFOs are real I see that same

746
00:31:27,829 --> 00:31:26,489
kind of paradigm shift happening with

747
00:31:29,989 --> 00:31:27,839
Bigfoot happening with Sasquatch

748
00:31:33,019 --> 00:31:29,999
wherever more more people are gonna kind

749
00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:33,029
of pay attention to this and I think

750
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:35,070
we're really kind of helping to kind of

751
00:31:38,899 --> 00:31:37,049
bring that charge forward with the show

752
00:31:40,339 --> 00:31:38,909
that's awesome whoa so we're stepping

753
00:31:42,769 --> 00:31:40,349
away from you know this show

754
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:42,779
specifically I'd love to put you guys on

755
00:31:47,419 --> 00:31:44,849
the spot here and get your personal

756
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:47,429
thoughts on what Bigfoot could be you

757
00:31:51,349 --> 00:31:48,960
know we have so many people claiming all

758
00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:51,359
different things it's the missing link

759
00:31:55,459 --> 00:31:53,849
it's wild man it's in her dimensional

760
00:31:57,229 --> 00:31:55,469
it's an alien it's a ghost like the

761
00:32:00,259 --> 00:31:57,239
possibilities are endless you know why

762
00:32:03,019 --> 00:32:00,269
haven't we ever found a body or anything

763
00:32:05,810 --> 00:32:03,029
like that so price what what do you

764
00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:05,820
think Bigfoot is or or possibly could

765
00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:08,129
represent I guess in a broader picture

766
00:32:12,979 --> 00:32:10,289
yeah that's a that's a big and tough

767
00:32:16,099 --> 00:32:12,989
question because look is when we don't

768
00:32:18,619 --> 00:32:16,109
have a Bigfoot body on the lab table

769
00:32:20,450 --> 00:32:18,629
then speculation runs wild and that's

770
00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:20,460
why you have so many different theories

771
00:32:26,779 --> 00:32:23,519
as to what Bigfoot could be for me

772
00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:26,789
Bigfoot represents a flesh-and-blood

773
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:29,129
creature that leaves physical evidence

774
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:33,809
eats to survive habits in the woods and

775
00:32:38,209 --> 00:32:35,849
on the other side of that coin it also

776
00:32:40,669 --> 00:32:38,219
represents what I like to call the

777
00:32:43,339 --> 00:32:40,679
stranger aspects of Bigfoot eree and

778
00:32:45,289 --> 00:32:43,349
what and what I mean by that is even

779
00:32:47,570 --> 00:32:45,299
though it does seem to exist in this

780
00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:47,580
physical world leaving footprints and

781
00:32:54,049 --> 00:32:50,849
hair and and nests and things of this

782
00:32:56,450 --> 00:32:54,059
nature it also when you talk to some of

783
00:32:59,119 --> 00:32:56,460
these witnesses and hear their stories

784
00:33:03,499 --> 00:32:59,129
and their accounts of these first-hand

785
00:33:05,570 --> 00:33:03,509
sightings they claim some pretty wild

786
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:05,580
things that don't go along with

787
00:33:10,340 --> 00:33:08,490
the you know the opaque explanation of

788
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:10,350
what Bigfoot is I mean some this is

789
00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:12,690
literally explained seeing these things

790
00:33:20,380 --> 00:33:16,910
D materialized some witnesses explain

791
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:20,390
these shape-shifting aspects of Bigfoot

792
00:33:27,650 --> 00:33:25,410
you know so I've never been one to call

793
00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:27,660
these witnesses you know when I hear

794
00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:31,500
their testimony liars or hoaxers or

795
00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:33,510
they're they're just delusional so I

796
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:36,150
have to take what they're saying into

797
00:33:40,820 --> 00:33:38,490
account you know I'm sure you guys get

798
00:33:42,830 --> 00:33:40,830
it in ufology too and I and I know it

799
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:42,840
happens in the world of Bigfoot so many

800
00:33:48,140 --> 00:33:46,320
people discount evidence if it sounds

801
00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:48,150
too crazy they shove it in what's called

802
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:49,830
like their little gray box and then they

803
00:33:53,390 --> 00:33:51,450
don't want to deal with it you know you

804
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:53,400
only want to deal with the evidence that

805
00:33:57,290 --> 00:33:55,050
that they like and that fits their

806
00:33:59,570 --> 00:33:57,300
hypothesis well you can't do that that's

807
00:34:02,270 --> 00:33:59,580
not science you know in fact one of the

808
00:34:04,700 --> 00:34:02,280
things I love to do while researching a

809
00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:04,710
story is find those details that people

810
00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:08,310
so often leave out that sound too crazy

811
00:34:12,740 --> 00:34:10,560
to be true because of this they're there

812
00:34:15,410 --> 00:34:12,750
in you're gonna find the pattern that

813
00:34:17,090 --> 00:34:15,420
could help make sense of of what this is

814
00:34:20,180 --> 00:34:17,100
that we're dealing with you know so you

815
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:20,190
can't just cherry-pick the data you have

816
00:34:25,370 --> 00:34:23,370
to look at look at the strangeness of

817
00:34:27,590 --> 00:34:25,380
Bigfoot you have to look at the

818
00:34:29,830 --> 00:34:27,600
strangeness of ufology

819
00:34:32,150 --> 00:34:29,840
so when you know Joffe I think 10

820
00:34:34,820 --> 00:34:32,160
experiences a UFO that comes down and

821
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:34,830
makes the guy a pancake and then leaves

822
00:34:40,130 --> 00:34:37,110
on his UFO again you have to talk about

823
00:34:42,380 --> 00:34:40,140
that because that we happened you know

824
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:42,390
and as strange as it is that's what this

825
00:34:46,910 --> 00:34:45,210
phenomenon is I think you're right and

826
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:46,920
Ronnie what I respected so much about

827
00:34:51,590 --> 00:34:49,110
your book monster land is the stories

828
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:51,600
you told about Massachusetts and sort of

829
00:34:54,650 --> 00:34:53,450
the Greater New England area of how

830
00:34:56,690 --> 00:34:54,660
strange

831
00:34:59,420 --> 00:34:56,700
these stories can be when it comes to

832
00:35:02,300 --> 00:34:59,430
UFOs or a Bigfoot or the supernatural

833
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:02,310
there's a stranger the story and the

834
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:05,010
less prototypical for me that screams

835
00:35:10,010 --> 00:35:08,160
authenticity or just you know these

836
00:35:12,860 --> 00:35:10,020
people are extremely good at making

837
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:12,870
stuff up but it is the more out there

838
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:16,170
stories that both intrigue me and lead

839
00:35:19,370 --> 00:35:18,210
me down paths where I'm like I I think

840
00:35:21,950 --> 00:35:19,380
there's something to this

841
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:21,960
it's not the same damn big-headed gray

842
00:35:26,690 --> 00:35:24,330
alien with big black eyes story I've

843
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:26,700
heard a million times so yeah what do

844
00:35:31,820 --> 00:35:28,410
you make of it what what do you think

845
00:35:36,980 --> 00:35:31,830
Bigfoot could be Ronnie you know for me

846
00:35:39,950 --> 00:35:36,990
I sure Brice's similar kind of position

847
00:35:43,010 --> 00:35:39,960
and it's also been strengthened not only

848
00:35:45,410 --> 00:35:43,020
from this expedition but also from my

849
00:35:47,090 --> 00:35:45,420
own personal experiences writing the

850
00:35:49,310 --> 00:35:47,100
book Mont Selina and then I just came

851
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:49,320
out with a second one to where there is

852
00:35:55,610 --> 00:35:51,690
a spiritual aspect to what is happening

853
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:55,620
I think in in all of reality but when

854
00:35:58,580 --> 00:35:56,850
the Native Americans talk about

855
00:36:00,650 --> 00:35:58,590
Sasquatch having one foot in the

856
00:36:02,780 --> 00:36:00,660
physical realm and another in the

857
00:36:06,350 --> 00:36:02,790
spiritual realm what we would consider

858
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:06,360
may be a dimension right thing it starts

859
00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:08,250
to explain a lot of reasons why we don't

860
00:36:14,180 --> 00:36:11,220
have a body or bones but also you know

861
00:36:16,730 --> 00:36:14,190
these strange stories that people have

862
00:36:18,410 --> 00:36:16,740
that the experience where their D

863
00:36:21,230 --> 00:36:18,420
materializing you know things like this

864
00:36:22,610 --> 00:36:21,240
a lot of researchers Bigfoot researchers

865
00:36:24,740 --> 00:36:22,620
that have been doing this for 40 50

866
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:24,750
years have come to the conclusion that

867
00:36:30,530 --> 00:36:27,330
there is something very current homo

868
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:30,540
about about Bigfoot that you know these

869
00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:32,010
they're they are physical they're

870
00:36:36,170 --> 00:36:33,630
leaving tracks they're leaving hair

871
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:36,180
they're they're getting picked up on

872
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:38,970
trail cams and thermals and different

873
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:41,760
other cameras and other evidences is

874
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:43,770
trooping that they're there and for me

875
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:47,250
it was a very John keel experience where

876
00:36:51,530 --> 00:36:49,890
I started digging into this stuff and

877
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:51,540
things started happening and I started

878
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:55,010
experiencing the stranger side of

879
00:37:00,170 --> 00:36:57,930
Sasquatch with the orbs with the shadow

880
00:37:02,060 --> 00:37:00,180
people the the paranormal kind of aspect

881
00:37:04,910 --> 00:37:02,070
of it in the woods in and around my

882
00:37:07,250 --> 00:37:04,920
house you know unexplainable things that

883
00:37:09,220 --> 00:37:07,260
there was it was just not a coincidence

884
00:37:11,810 --> 00:37:09,230
that it was happening at the same time

885
00:37:14,540 --> 00:37:11,820
all this all the Bigfoot stuff was kind

886
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:14,550
of going on so for me there is something

887
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:16,320
physical but there is something else

888
00:37:19,130 --> 00:37:17,610
that's happening that I think we're

889
00:37:21,290 --> 00:37:19,140
starting to understand and I think it

890
00:37:24,110 --> 00:37:21,300
lies with that quantum physics and

891
00:37:26,180 --> 00:37:24,120
quantum mechanics to really comprehend

892
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:26,190
what is happening what is what is going

893
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:29,280
on interesting well you mentioned John

894
00:37:32,780 --> 00:37:32,130
keel and that course kind of dovetails

895
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:32,790
into

896
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:34,530
something I want to talk to you guys

897
00:37:40,970 --> 00:37:38,570
about John keel plays a big part in this

898
00:37:43,730 --> 00:37:40,980
independent webseries Helier by the

899
00:37:45,970 --> 00:37:43,740
planet weird crew Bryce I know you're

900
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:45,980
quite familiar with these with this

901
00:37:53,390 --> 00:37:50,490
webseries and it seems that things like

902
00:37:56,810 --> 00:37:53,400
this Helier or in general there's been a

903
00:37:58,220 --> 00:37:56,820
new wave of paranormal themed television

904
00:38:00,250 --> 00:37:58,230
shows whether it's your foes ghost

905
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:00,260
hunters is coming back

906
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:03,810
things like Helier and now expedition

907
00:38:09,350 --> 00:38:06,090
big so what do you guys think brings

908
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:09,360
about these waves of you know paranormal

909
00:38:15,110 --> 00:38:12,330
theme television shows and do you think

910
00:38:16,940 --> 00:38:15,120
that they help or hurt the topics or is

911
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:16,950
it a little of both Bryce what do you

912
00:38:21,470 --> 00:38:18,930
think well first of all I just watched

913
00:38:23,780 --> 00:38:21,480
my press screener of Hellyer season 2

914
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:23,790
the first three episodes last night and

915
00:38:30,980 --> 00:38:27,210
so I'm still a buzz from after having

916
00:38:33,170 --> 00:38:30,990
just look you know when those guys came

917
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:33,180
out with the first season of Hellyer I

918
00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:36,090
mean it's like they really upped the

919
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:38,640
ante on what paranormal television could

920
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:40,770
be it was the it was a game changer for

921
00:38:48,290 --> 00:38:44,370
me and and and I think the reason why is

922
00:38:49,940 --> 00:38:48,300
that for me when you experience a

923
00:38:52,370 --> 00:38:49,950
synchronicity it's it's something that's

924
00:38:55,070 --> 00:38:52,380
hard to ignore you kind of feel it in

925
00:38:57,140 --> 00:38:55,080
your gut and it leads you down what I

926
00:39:00,560 --> 00:38:57,150
like to call these rabbit holes where

927
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:00,570
where you start to uncover you know more

928
00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:04,490
things and more details and more

929
00:39:09,170 --> 00:39:07,260
synchronicities that that sort of help

930
00:39:10,820 --> 00:39:09,180
explain what's going on

931
00:39:13,850 --> 00:39:10,830
look I think we're in it I think we're

932
00:39:15,860 --> 00:39:13,860
at a point in time where you know we

933
00:39:18,020 --> 00:39:15,870
live in a world where most of our

934
00:39:19,550 --> 00:39:18,030
scientists and most of our materialists

935
00:39:21,890 --> 00:39:19,560
like to tell us that we've got it all

936
00:39:24,350 --> 00:39:21,900
wrapped up you know we know what

937
00:39:27,140 --> 00:39:24,360
everything is we know how the forces of

938
00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:27,150
nature work you know we know we know

939
00:39:32,570 --> 00:39:30,720
chemistry we know biology and and and

940
00:39:34,580 --> 00:39:32,580
that all these things that people are

941
00:39:37,420 --> 00:39:34,590
experiencing that are unexplained are

942
00:39:40,910 --> 00:39:37,430
just hallucinations of the mind or

943
00:39:42,890 --> 00:39:40,920
created from watching too many alien

944
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:42,900
movies which i think is just complete

945
00:39:48,330 --> 00:39:45,730
bunk but we're also at a at a point

946
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:48,340
time where you know new scientific

947
00:39:54,060 --> 00:39:51,609
endeavors are taking place and and you

948
00:39:57,900 --> 00:39:54,070
know quantum mechanics is starting to

949
00:40:00,120 --> 00:39:57,910
reveal to a good majority of the people

950
00:40:02,849 --> 00:40:00,130
in science that the observer plays a

951
00:40:07,020 --> 00:40:02,859
role in reality and what that means is

952
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:07,030
things are and can be way stranger than

953
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:09,760
they appear absolutely I mean we are

954
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:11,170
entering a whole new world of

955
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:13,450
consciousness I think when it comes to

956
00:40:17,690 --> 00:40:16,000
these topics and and yeah what role do

957
00:40:20,970 --> 00:40:17,700
we play in all that it's not just

958
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:20,980
looking up and seeing a UFO or you know

959
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:22,960
catching a glimpse of a sasquatch in the

960
00:40:29,490 --> 00:40:25,690
woods like we are a part of this and I

961
00:40:31,770 --> 00:40:29,500
think we we let ourselves be so Ronnie I

962
00:40:33,930 --> 00:40:31,780
got to ask you as well when it comes to

963
00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:33,940
getting these topics out to the

964
00:40:38,130 --> 00:40:35,440
mainstream you did bring up the whole

965
00:40:40,380 --> 00:40:38,140
Navy story and the secret Pentagon UFO

966
00:40:43,020 --> 00:40:40,390
program all the stuff Tom Long's doing

967
00:40:44,460 --> 00:40:43,030
which we are extremely thankful for in

968
00:40:47,310 --> 00:40:44,470
the UFO world no matter what you think

969
00:40:49,620 --> 00:40:47,320
of the work he's done he has brought

970
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:49,630
UFOs to the mainstream in a way that

971
00:40:53,790 --> 00:40:51,609
none of us ever have been able to do so

972
00:40:57,720 --> 00:40:53,800
what do you think about these topics

973
00:41:00,420 --> 00:40:57,730
being on television and how it's sort of

974
00:41:03,210 --> 00:41:00,430
how its treated in the I guess the world

975
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:03,220
of entertainment it is a struggle I

976
00:41:08,099 --> 00:41:05,609
would assume it you know I think what

977
00:41:10,410 --> 00:41:08,109
what's happening is that there is an

978
00:41:12,750 --> 00:41:10,420
appetite with Millennials for this

979
00:41:14,940 --> 00:41:12,760
subject matter conspiracies paranormal

980
00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:14,950
there is an interest there is a a I

981
00:41:19,710 --> 00:41:17,680
think a curious spirit that has kind of

982
00:41:21,450 --> 00:41:19,720
unified itself that we're starting to

983
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:21,460
see that there is a desire for this type

984
00:41:25,290 --> 00:41:24,160
of content they want to devour this

985
00:41:27,150 --> 00:41:25,300
stuff look at what's happened with

986
00:41:28,830 --> 00:41:27,160
stranger things

987
00:41:32,430 --> 00:41:28,840
finding lupa did a great job of bringing

988
00:41:34,260 --> 00:41:32,440
awareness to the subjects and getting

989
00:41:37,770 --> 00:41:34,270
people interested in it so I think that

990
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:37,780
it serves a purpose there are some other

991
00:41:43,260 --> 00:41:40,510
shows that can possibly do some damage

992
00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:43,270
you know to the subject matter to where

993
00:41:48,180 --> 00:41:45,280
you're not going to take it as seriously

994
00:41:50,099 --> 00:41:48,190
and I think the the fusion of science

995
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:50,109
the the fusion of spirit science and

996
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:53,290
these other things and other like I said

997
00:41:56,609 --> 00:41:54,130
I'm talking about will call the

998
00:41:59,040 --> 00:41:56,619
mechanics in quantum physics there there

999
00:41:59,520 --> 00:41:59,050
is a there's a turning point a tipping

1000
00:42:02,280 --> 00:41:59,530
point

1001
00:42:04,740 --> 00:42:02,290
it's happening now with a lot of things

1002
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:04,750
and I think Bigfoot is is a part of that

1003
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:07,090
that curiosity that people want the

1004
00:42:12,540 --> 00:42:10,330
answers you know the Sapru de film is

1005
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:12,550
the most analyzed film ever right and

1006
00:42:17,340 --> 00:42:14,410
the second to that is the Patterson

1007
00:42:19,740 --> 00:42:17,350
Gimlin film so and it still would stood

1008
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:19,750
the tan of the stand of you know this

1009
00:42:24,060 --> 00:42:21,730
time period but I think that there's

1010
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:24,070
just this this appetite for it that

1011
00:42:28,770 --> 00:42:27,130
we're gonna see more and more content

1012
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:28,780
being created there's a reason why

1013
00:42:34,140 --> 00:42:30,880
ancient aliens has been on for 14

1014
00:42:36,570 --> 00:42:34,150
seasons know also it doesn't it just

1015
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:36,580
feel like anti-establishment you know

1016
00:42:40,940 --> 00:42:38,800
what I mean yes yes you feel like an

1017
00:42:43,140 --> 00:42:40,950
outlier you know what I mean I was like

1018
00:42:45,090 --> 00:42:43,150
that I'm gonna I'm gonna figure it

1019
00:42:47,370 --> 00:42:45,100
out for myself I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm

1020
00:42:50,670 --> 00:42:47,380
gonna look into reality myself you know

1021
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:50,680
history is up for grabs you know just

1022
00:42:54,810 --> 00:42:52,720
because we read it in our social studies

1023
00:42:57,660 --> 00:42:54,820
or history books in grade school doesn't

1024
00:42:59,520 --> 00:42:57,670
mean it's it actually happened that way

1025
00:43:00,770 --> 00:42:59,530
you know and I think I think more people

1026
00:43:03,620 --> 00:43:00,780
are starting to discover that

1027
00:43:06,750 --> 00:43:03,630
archeologists scientists you know so

1028
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:06,760
reality man answers yes you know you got

1029
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:08,410
a question you got a question the

1030
00:43:12,450 --> 00:43:09,850
authority and what they're telling us

1031
00:43:15,330 --> 00:43:12,460
and you know all of it's up for grabs

1032
00:43:16,890 --> 00:43:15,340
so yeah especially with the the invent

1033
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:16,900
of the Internet I mean you literally

1034
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:21,760
have a tool that you can go explore not

1035
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:23,710
only your world but reality in itself

1036
00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:26,530
but just at the touch of a button it is

1037
00:43:31,710 --> 00:43:28,720
so true we live in an age now where

1038
00:43:34,980 --> 00:43:31,720
anyone B can become an investigator or a

1039
00:43:37,230 --> 00:43:34,990
researcher a journalist a scientist like

1040
00:43:39,150 --> 00:43:37,240
this can all be done together with

1041
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:39,160
people all over the world and I think

1042
00:43:42,690 --> 00:43:40,570
that's what's most important is when you

1043
00:43:44,910 --> 00:43:42,700
get the topic of Bigfoot out to the

1044
00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:44,920
public out to the mainstream in the way

1045
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:46,960
that you guys are trying to do that's

1046
00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:49,210
gonna bring in people of all walks of

1047
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:50,800
life whether they're zoologist

1048
00:43:56,010 --> 00:43:53,290
cryptozoologist paleontologists

1049
00:43:59,010 --> 00:43:56,020
historians whatever it's gonna bring new

1050
00:44:01,560 --> 00:43:59,020
people into the field to then give their

1051
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:01,570
ideas and that discourse is what's going

1052
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:03,250
to move us forward I think in all of

1053
00:44:07,620 --> 00:44:05,290
these topics is no longer being

1054
00:44:10,890 --> 00:44:07,630
exclusive and letting everyone in and

1055
00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:10,900
share I see that the table I guess for

1056
00:44:15,569 --> 00:44:13,359
sure you know I like to I like to say so

1057
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:15,579
- because I've seen it on both ends I've

1058
00:44:20,549 --> 00:44:18,249
had the luxury of kind of living in both

1059
00:44:21,930 --> 00:44:20,559
worlds right living in the UFO kind of

1060
00:44:25,739 --> 00:44:21,940
community living in the Bigfoot

1061
00:44:28,769 --> 00:44:25,749
community and you see the the egos and

1062
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:28,779
the libraries and these kind of like

1063
00:44:34,049 --> 00:44:32,170
silos and these cliques and what I see

1064
00:44:36,180 --> 00:44:34,059
happening and I've seen it now the past

1065
00:44:38,549 --> 00:44:36,190
couple of years and more as more and

1066
00:44:40,349 --> 00:44:38,559
more researchers are collaborating

1067
00:44:42,059 --> 00:44:40,359
they're working together

1068
00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:42,069
you mentioned Cheryl costs I had a

1069
00:44:47,729 --> 00:44:44,049
privilege of meeting her this year at

1070
00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:47,739
the New England UFO conference and you

1071
00:44:51,779 --> 00:44:50,049
know I think that unified that kind of

1072
00:44:54,569 --> 00:44:51,789
spirit that collaboration where people

1073
00:44:56,579 --> 00:44:54,579
are like hey let's you know when the

1074
00:44:59,999 --> 00:44:56,589
whole Bigfoot thing kind of emerged my

1075
00:45:02,309 --> 00:45:00,009
mind frustration lied within you know

1076
00:45:03,749 --> 00:45:02,319
the the infighting myth and also I'm not

1077
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:03,759
going to tell you where my hot spot is

1078
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:05,410
because I don't want you to damage it

1079
00:45:10,109 --> 00:45:07,209
whatever but hey we're also we're also

1080
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:10,119
not I think helping to corroborate

1081
00:45:13,890 --> 00:45:12,160
sightings as well because someone could

1082
00:45:15,749 --> 00:45:13,900
easily come out and say hey I've had

1083
00:45:16,650 --> 00:45:15,759
this experience here and then you find

1084
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:16,660
out the next-door neighbor has been

1085
00:45:20,849 --> 00:45:19,209
having it for 30 years and has been

1086
00:45:23,759 --> 00:45:20,859
seeing these things coming in and out

1087
00:45:25,439 --> 00:45:23,769
through this cornfield and you know

1088
00:45:27,539 --> 00:45:25,449
strange lights over his house every

1089
00:45:29,370 --> 00:45:27,549
other Wednesday no just this kind of

1090
00:45:30,989 --> 00:45:29,380
stuff that I think when we start

1091
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:30,999
communicating we start sharing when we

1092
00:45:35,459 --> 00:45:32,890
start understanding and Bryce mentioned

1093
00:45:37,380 --> 00:45:35,469
it earlier you start seeing the patterns

1094
00:45:39,689 --> 00:45:37,390
between all of these different

1095
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:39,699
encounters the strangeness that kind of

1096
00:45:43,799 --> 00:45:41,440
helps thread and tie them all together

1097
00:45:45,809 --> 00:45:43,809
you start seeing that and that kind of

1098
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:45,819
hell also helps to determine which ones

1099
00:45:49,769 --> 00:45:47,890
are real and which ones are kind of made

1100
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:49,779
up or kind of told to you to kind of

1101
00:45:54,420 --> 00:45:52,089
gain some kind of access they want to be

1102
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:54,430
in your book or on your podcast but when

1103
00:45:58,259 --> 00:45:56,410
you interview an 85 year old guy who's

1104
00:46:00,559 --> 00:45:58,269
had experiences that he's telling you

1105
00:46:02,789 --> 00:46:00,569
that he hasn't told anyone in 34 years

1106
00:46:04,799 --> 00:46:02,799
there's some realness there's some

1107
00:46:06,779 --> 00:46:04,809
authenticity behind that that you kind

1108
00:46:10,349 --> 00:46:06,789
of sit up and go wow this is really

1109
00:46:11,999 --> 00:46:10,359
happening that is a very very good point

1110
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:12,009
when you're actually out there talking

1111
00:46:16,259 --> 00:46:14,410
to these people face-to-face and you see

1112
00:46:18,809 --> 00:46:16,269
how they react as they're recalling a

1113
00:46:20,910 --> 00:46:18,819
story it's a whole different ballgame

1114
00:46:23,819 --> 00:46:20,920
than hearing it or reading it in an

1115
00:46:25,339 --> 00:46:23,829
article or even on television so Ronnie

1116
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:25,349
I couldn't agree with you more on

1117
00:46:30,499 --> 00:46:26,640
in terms of like that

1118
00:46:32,749 --> 00:46:30,509
boots-on-the-ground feel are there any

1119
00:46:34,910 --> 00:46:32,759
stories you know there's always those

1120
00:46:36,620 --> 00:46:34,920
behind-the-scenes stories when these TV

1121
00:46:38,569 --> 00:46:36,630
shows are being made but um maybe

1122
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:38,579
something that really sticks out as

1123
00:46:43,609 --> 00:46:40,410
being your favorite part of the entire

1124
00:46:46,249 --> 00:46:43,619
experience Bryce how about you look when

1125
00:46:49,130 --> 00:46:46,259
when we sat down and and kind of went

1126
00:46:51,859 --> 00:46:49,140
over how this show could be laid out and

1127
00:46:54,589 --> 00:46:51,869
should be laid out we plotted it but we

1128
00:46:57,049 --> 00:46:54,599
had no idea what we would encounter and

1129
00:46:59,269 --> 00:46:57,059
all the stuff that came up all the

1130
00:47:02,120 --> 00:46:59,279
surprises all the things that we were

1131
00:47:04,279 --> 00:47:02,130
able to uncover were just as shocking to

1132
00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:04,289
me as they will be to audience members

1133
00:47:11,420 --> 00:47:08,880
so I mean to be we didn't expect to find

1134
00:47:13,519 --> 00:47:11,430
what we found you know and and I mean

1135
00:47:15,439 --> 00:47:13,529
you know you sort of you sort of want

1136
00:47:18,499 --> 00:47:15,449
that as you set out on on an expedition

1137
00:47:20,930 --> 00:47:18,509
like this but but man did we get lucky

1138
00:47:23,749 --> 00:47:20,940
and that was the biggest that was the

1139
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:23,759
biggest surprise and the biggest joy for

1140
00:47:28,459 --> 00:47:25,680
me was all the stuff that we've been

1141
00:47:33,439 --> 00:47:28,469
able to uncover I'm dying over here

1142
00:47:35,799 --> 00:47:33,449
because Bryce is just I'm like it's I

1143
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:35,809
know you want to get into specifics but

1144
00:47:41,839 --> 00:47:39,410
he's so right though he's so right I

1145
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:41,849
think people are gonna be shocked to see

1146
00:47:46,549 --> 00:47:44,609
what we got and when I said earlier on

1147
00:47:49,209 --> 00:47:46,559
the podcast and said you know the

1148
00:47:52,430 --> 00:47:49,219
experience was magical meeting everybody

1149
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:52,440
is amazing and like I said we're talking

1150
00:47:57,890 --> 00:47:54,930
all the time but it was something that

1151
00:47:59,390 --> 00:47:57,900
we had hoped we were gonna get some

1152
00:48:02,019 --> 00:47:59,400
evidence something that we're gonna come

1153
00:48:04,729 --> 00:48:02,029
out of here and feel like this wasn't a

1154
00:48:07,339 --> 00:48:04,739
failure you know this was we've made

1155
00:48:10,910 --> 00:48:07,349
some kind of significant contribution to

1156
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:10,920
the search and I am proud and happy to

1157
00:48:15,709 --> 00:48:13,410
say that we did have some things that we

1158
00:48:18,049 --> 00:48:15,719
just did not expect that were just

1159
00:48:20,269 --> 00:48:18,059
freaking awesome and I can't wait to

1160
00:48:23,809 --> 00:48:20,279
share it with the world really and that

1161
00:48:25,420 --> 00:48:23,819
being said to Ryan I mean that more than

1162
00:48:27,650 --> 00:48:25,430
anything it was that it was the

1163
00:48:29,449 --> 00:48:27,660
friendships that I think we made I mean

1164
00:48:31,370 --> 00:48:29,459
Ronnie I'll tell you we've been we've

1165
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:31,380
been grouped texting now ever since we

1166
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:34,890
started this thing and yeah we've

1167
00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:38,850
developed a friendship that that I think

1168
00:48:44,210 --> 00:48:41,250
and that's been amazing is being able to

1169
00:48:46,220 --> 00:48:44,220
uh you know you know how this field is

1170
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:46,230
and these subjects get there's not a you

1171
00:48:50,420 --> 00:48:48,210
there's there's only so many people you

1172
00:48:52,580 --> 00:48:50,430
can talk to about this stuff so when you

1173
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:52,590
and these like-minded individuals you

1174
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:54,330
you hold them close to your heart you

1175
00:48:58,970 --> 00:48:56,370
know that's a really good point you know

1176
00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:58,980
there's times where I'm you know talking

1177
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:01,440
to a friend or someone or I get a new

1178
00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:03,090
email from someone who said you know

1179
00:49:07,700 --> 00:49:05,310
they it was a race time being taken

1180
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:07,710
aboard a craft and brought somewhere and

1181
00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:10,050
I just sit in those moments and I'm like

1182
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:12,510
what what is my life like I never saw it

1183
00:49:17,660 --> 00:49:14,880
going this way but the people I've met

1184
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:17,670
along the way the stories I've heard and

1185
00:49:24,380 --> 00:49:20,490
I think these these kindred spirits we

1186
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:24,390
find with these topics we can we can

1187
00:49:27,470 --> 00:49:26,250
call them family we can call them

1188
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:27,480
friends they're more than just

1189
00:49:31,220 --> 00:49:29,490
colleagues and I think more than

1190
00:49:33,710 --> 00:49:31,230
anything if we don't find answers to

1191
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:33,720
these phenomena we've at least met

1192
00:49:38,300 --> 00:49:35,760
people along the way who we can take

1193
00:49:40,430 --> 00:49:38,310
that journey with and you know for me

1194
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:40,440
that's what life is about so whether or

1195
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:42,570
not you guys found the answer to what

1196
00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:44,880
Bigfoot is or isn't doesn't even really

1197
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:46,710
matter to me I can hear the excitement

1198
00:49:52,550 --> 00:49:49,920
in your voices of what you discovered

1199
00:49:56,750 --> 00:49:52,560
and I honestly I can't wait to see what

1200
00:49:58,970 --> 00:49:56,760
you guys came up with you know I love I

1201
00:50:00,170 --> 00:49:58,980
know it's I I don't want it to sound a

1202
00:50:02,450 --> 00:50:00,180
little cheesy but you're absolutely

1203
00:50:04,130 --> 00:50:02,460
right I mean the communities that we

1204
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:04,140
create are so important and they're a

1205
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:07,050
big reason why I started my podcast and

1206
00:50:12,140 --> 00:50:09,570
look all three of us have in common you

1207
00:50:13,970 --> 00:50:12,150
know we all do podcasts so you know

1208
00:50:16,370 --> 00:50:13,980
Ronnie talked about going into that

1209
00:50:18,170 --> 00:50:16,380
librarian and pulling out that Bigfoot

1210
00:50:20,090 --> 00:50:18,180
book or that alien book and that's

1211
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:20,100
really what started it for me too and it

1212
00:50:25,370 --> 00:50:23,010
just opens up this whole new world and I

1213
00:50:26,990 --> 00:50:25,380
think I think podcasts can do that now

1214
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:27,000
too you know they can really be a

1215
00:50:33,830 --> 00:50:31,650
gateway into into mystery and to the

1216
00:50:35,660 --> 00:50:33,840
unexplored and I and I think that's what

1217
00:50:38,810 --> 00:50:35,670
we're you know at least for me that's

1218
00:50:41,180 --> 00:50:38,820
part of what I'm trying to achieve by by

1219
00:50:42,980 --> 00:50:41,190
embracing the community and reaching out

1220
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:42,990
to people who are interested in this

1221
00:50:48,530 --> 00:50:45,690
stuff because I once you once you get

1222
00:50:51,140 --> 00:50:48,540
hooked on this on this subjects on these

1223
00:50:52,180 --> 00:50:51,150
subjects you find that that it just

1224
00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:52,190
brings a new

1225
00:50:58,270 --> 00:50:55,250
sort of spark to your life it really

1226
00:51:01,630 --> 00:50:58,280
brings a sense of the divine a sense of

1227
00:51:04,210 --> 00:51:01,640
mystery and uh and a purpose to your

1228
00:51:06,670 --> 00:51:04,220
life that I think that most people might

1229
00:51:08,829 --> 00:51:06,680
be a mess with you know such a good

1230
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:08,839
point there's times I'm at work doing my

1231
00:51:13,420 --> 00:51:11,210
mundane routine job and I'm just

1232
00:51:14,410 --> 00:51:13,430
thinking of what's to come when I get

1233
00:51:16,829 --> 00:51:14,420
home you know

1234
00:51:18,819 --> 00:51:16,839
what email am I gonna open up what

1235
00:51:21,190 --> 00:51:18,829
documentary am I gonna watch Who am I

1236
00:51:23,260 --> 00:51:21,200
gonna hear from and what story am I

1237
00:51:25,930 --> 00:51:23,270
gonna now be a part of so I know that

1238
00:51:29,859 --> 00:51:25,940
feeling well man it shakes your reality

1239
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:29,869
it changes things and it makes it all

1240
00:51:34,059 --> 00:51:30,800
worth it

1241
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:34,069
amen well guys where can we find your

1242
00:51:38,140 --> 00:51:36,770
personal work Brice you got the podcast

1243
00:51:40,329 --> 00:51:38,150
and everything going on where can we

1244
00:51:43,839 --> 00:51:40,339
find out more about that so yeah you can

1245
00:51:45,849 --> 00:51:43,849
just go to a Bigfoot on Instagram we do

1246
00:51:48,190 --> 00:51:45,859
a lot of posting and that's that Bigfoot

1247
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:48,200
collectors Club we're on Twitter at

1248
00:51:52,750 --> 00:51:50,960
Bigfoot pod and you know listen to our

1249
00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:52,760
podcast where ever you get podcast

1250
00:51:59,260 --> 00:51:56,720
available but more importantly watch the

1251
00:52:02,890 --> 00:51:59,270
premiere of expedition Bigfoot on

1252
00:52:04,950 --> 00:52:02,900
December 8 at 10 9 central on the Travel

1253
00:52:07,300 --> 00:52:04,960
Channel you will not regret it

1254
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:07,310
absolutely Ronnie what do you got for us

1255
00:52:09,339 --> 00:52:08,720
man where can we find out more of what

1256
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:09,349
you're up to

1257
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:11,690
absolutely so you go to my websites

1258
00:52:17,230 --> 00:52:15,890
Ronnie Leblanc ro and then y le be Lanc

1259
00:52:20,140 --> 00:52:17,240
com

1260
00:52:23,339 --> 00:52:20,150
I have the podcast muslin pod we run

1261
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:23,349
social where on iTunes where we can find

1262
00:52:27,370 --> 00:52:26,810
podcast you can also get my book monster

1263
00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:27,380
land

1264
00:52:32,109 --> 00:52:29,950
encounters with Bigfoot orange orbs UFOs

1265
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:32,119
and I have a new book that just came out

1266
00:52:36,700 --> 00:52:34,569
which is part two which is about shamans

1267
00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:36,710
synchronicity and Sasquatch and high

1268
00:52:41,890 --> 00:52:39,680
strangeness and yeah the December 8th

1269
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:41,900
Sunday night I can't wait 10 o'clock the

1270
00:52:46,690 --> 00:52:44,450
premiere expedition Bigfoot on Travel

1271
00:52:48,849 --> 00:52:46,700
Channel and trouble channel go and guys

1272
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:48,859
be sure to follow both these guys on

1273
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:52,130
twitter and use the hashtag TR VL

1274
00:52:56,500 --> 00:52:55,010
bigfoot and tweet to them while you're

1275
00:52:58,510 --> 00:52:56,510
watching it let them know what you think

1276
00:53:01,150 --> 00:52:58,520
about this I'm gonna be doing it you

1277
00:53:05,170 --> 00:53:01,160
guys are gonna get probably pretty sick

1278
00:53:08,470 --> 00:53:06,400
I'm really looking forward to this as a

1279
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:08,480
ufologist I've never been more excited

1280
00:53:11,770 --> 00:53:10,130
to watch a show about Bigfoot

1281
00:53:14,799 --> 00:53:11,780
so you'd be something like already

1282
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:14,809
that's good so guys I can't thank you

1283
00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:16,970
enough Bryce and Ronnie for coming on

1284
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:20,480
somewhere this guy's today it was our

1285
00:53:26,530 --> 00:53:24,530
pleasure saying appreciate it that's it

1286
00:53:28,630 --> 00:53:26,540
for this week's episode again be sure to

1287
00:53:31,329 --> 00:53:28,640
check out the premiere of expedition

1288
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:31,339
Bigfoot Sunday December 8th on the

1289
00:53:36,609 --> 00:53:33,890
Travel Channel check your local listings

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00:53:37,660 --> 00:53:36,619
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00:53:39,819 --> 00:53:37,670
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1311
00:54:29,010 --> 00:54:27,170
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1312
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:29,020
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00:55:09,500 --> 00:54:30,610
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